Comments on: Internationale Zurich Gruppe

By: ls iennaco

ls iennaco — Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:41:43 +0000

a word of warning to everybody. If you get contacted by anybody about Biodefence Corporation, which includes officials from the company, DO NOT TOUCH THEM WITH A BARGE POLE, AS THEY ARE ALL CROOKS!!!!!!!!!!!

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:36:43 +0000

In reply to malta. So, this isbecoming much worse than BioDefense being a bystander suffering from scams organized by another group...

By: malta

malta — Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:49:18 +0000

Regarding Biodefense being an innocent party I’m afraid that is unlikely. The company was prosecuted in Texas for illegally selling shares and is under investigation in the UK

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/article-1309016/FSA-launches-BioDefense-shares-probe.html

By: malta

malta — Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:39:53 +0000

Guys Biodefense is a long running scam. Many boiler room scams have been selling Biodefense shares with promises it will go public ‘next month’ since a year ago. Remember that it is illegal for anyone to cold call you selling shares, there are no honest people selling shares over the phone. Everything you were told is a lie and you will never see a penny of your money again.

Because you fell for this scam you are now on their ‘mugs list’ and you will be receiving many more calls. These callers may offer to buy your shares for an upfront fee or they may pretend to be federal agents investigating the matter. In every case when you are asked for money up front they will steal it and disappear, it is just an extension of the original scam.

Some people have fallen for these secondary scams and have lost upwards of 100,000. The average loss to a boiler room scam is about 25,000.

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 19:17:25 +0000

Ali,
Thanks for sharing. I am deeply sorry that you had to learn the hard way.
Yves

By: Ali

Ali — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:16:46 +0000

It seems these people have reached the middle east as well!! A guy called me from a company called Geminus partner and he offered me Biodefense shares for 5$. This company has a website and biodefense has a websire as well. Everything seemed so real. I even received a package through USP claimed to be from Biodefense..
5000$ has gone from my account, one month now and no one is replying to my e-mails. Had to learn the hard way.
My advice: if there is a profit out there, why should people that we dont know call us to take that money??they will take it and will not share it even with their wives..
any way, take care guys from such calls, they seem very real…dont repeat my mistake.

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Sat, 22 May 2010 15:24:25 +0000

It’s been a long time I did not check the Google status about this “Internationale Zurich Gruppe”. I just did and I’m impressed by the number of horror stories you can read there (not counting my own web site of course).

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Sat, 22 May 2010 15:21:28 +0000

Sean,
At least, you did not call everything, but these guys have plenty of ideas to steal you and me.

DA Jackson is probably not even a real name…

By: SEAN

SEAN — Sat, 22 May 2010 12:36:57 +0000

Hi i boutght shares at bio defense and recieve a share certificate , i called bio defense to make sure the certificate was good and they said yes. but guy name Donald A Jackson who sold me the shares , called me and ask me to slel my shares for $10.70 , he then got a broker to call me for my share certificate number and said the money would be in my account in a few days , it has been over a month and no money yuet or no call back , but i called bio defense and warn them so my shares are still intact. but these guys are scammers , Donald A Jackson is his name

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:10:00 +0000

Mr Hampton, as you imply you did not draw money but just invested it. The worst is probably still to come. Assuming that BioDefense is 100% legit, please, check the suggested reading indicated above: Pump-and-Dump schemes are quite easy to implement making the company and the investors both victims of the same scam. Check the wikipedia page to understand its operation (before you draw your money all looks good; but then…)

Anyway, an investor firm that is listed by national regulation bodies in the alert/notice/unauthorized lists is -once again- a major investor risk. Remember that when Madoff funds entered these lists, it was much too late.

Again, I strongly suggest that you contact the local financial regulatory body in your country and try to clarify their status with people you should believe more than ZCG (and me).

By: mr hampton

mr hampton — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:39:09 +0000

but i sent my money directly 2 bio defense ? so how can i be scamed if zcg has not handaled my founds ?

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 19:08:47 +0000

Anyone looking for "zurich capital gruppe" on Google will immediately notice the following list of pages reported by the search engine (as of today).

This web page
The UK Stock Market and Finance regulation body listing the Zurich Capital Gruppe as part of their "Unauthorised overseas firms operating in the UK"
The Swedish Stock Market and Finance regulation body listing the Zurich Capital Gruppe as part of their "Investor alerts"
An Italian consumer association listing the Zurich Capital Gruppe as part of their "Notice to investors"

Nothing else! Nobody ever had something positive (or merely something not negative) to say about Zurich Capital Gruppe! Mr Hampton, Zurich Capital Gruppe is obviously an internationally famous swindler. Either you are just a troll (a representant of ZCG trying to protect your crook's interests) or you are a victim who should contact the local police/judicial authorities in order to have a little chance of tracking them. I do not believe that Zurich Capital Gruppe has refunded any significant part of your investment (they may routinely claim that you had great returns until you ask for drawing funds - If you give me 1€, I can easily claim that I invested it for you and it is now valued 1000€). If I'm wrong it will be easy to prove and ZCG will certainly use it to correct their bad reputation in front of such stable judicial authorities as the FSA and the Finansinspektionen.

By: mr hampton

mr hampton — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 18:29:56 +0000

i invested within a company called zurich capital gruppe who showed me great returns on my money , so it luks 2 me da dis international zurich is a rip off ov da company which helped me

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 20:12:35 +0000

Interesting, isn’t it? This guy knows what will happen to a stock in 3 months. He has the right information for this and is more than willing to have you rake dollars in.

Unfortunately, while BioDefense is a real company (and probably a victim), ZCG is nothing at all (except somebody willing to receive your money).

That would make me quite suspicious. What do you think about it? It looks less interesting than casino or lottery: Like a bookie who is ready to run with your money before the race!

Suggested reading to understand how companies like ZCG are working: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_and_dump (this scam even has a name).

By: Dave Hargreaves

Dave Hargreaves — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:19:18 +0000

I had a phone call today from a salesman at Zurich Capital Gruppe. He was trying to get me interested in an IPO for BioDefense Corporation, which does have a website and makes a machine for neutralising bio hazards contained within mail. He claimed he could sell me shares in the company for $4.00 and that at the IPO in spring 2010 they would list at $12 to $15. I was very suspicious but kept him talking to find out more about what he was proposing.

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:43:52 +0000

Denis, I'd say that, if it is not the same company, they seem as reliable as IZG. Look at the following:

Zurich Capital Gruppe (ZCG) has no web site (today, no serious company would be in such a situation)
ZCG may be similar to more reliable companies, but it does not mean anything...
Why would you be confident enough to give ZCG some of your hard-earned money? Would you do this with the first guy you find outdoor? Banks fail, stock exchange markets may fall down, but crooks do not even try...

But really, do you think that ZCG can be a sound financial institution when Google reports: No results found for "zurich capital gruppe". I would bet 100€ that this Zurich Capital Gruppe (ZCG) will soon be listed as dubious -at best- or under investigation.

By: mick

mick — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:01:10 +0000

Hallelugla, not just me then? glad to hear that the guy that called me,
Donald Matthew-Richardson – Senior Consultant
seems to be the man from IZG is a good salesperson but we seem to be 1 step infront.
I wont be parting with my hard earned cash.

Thank you all for the info

By: Denis

Denis — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:49:40 +0000

I have just been contacted by zurich capital gruppe offering shares. is this the same as you have been righting about.

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:26:39 +0000

Let me add -to be completely clear- that investing your money through a company which is already under investigation is probably worse than trying to have B.Maddoff as your finance advisor.

By: Yves Roumazeilles

Yves Roumazeilles — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:25:01 +0000

Jonny,

You experience and you list most of the questions some wise investor should have in front of such a situation. It is true that a financial intermediary must be very trustful: You give your money, they have to provide trust.

In a small company IPO there are many things that can go wrong, and it is not always because of the intermediary. But getting a direct contact with the company itself may be a good move.

Just remember that in some scams, even the company is the victim. Bait-and-switch money scams will involve the shares of a small company whose stocks will be moved up and down along the “scam time schedule” and will probably leave the company as victim as the people thinking they were investing in it.

All in all, I am fascinated that IZG is still operating under this name. They should already have moved to another name and another web site…